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Fairfax News => Political Issues/Comments => Topic started by: kevin on December 18, 2010, 02:42:24 AM

Title: Political "Lie of the Year"
Post by: kevin on December 18, 2010, 02:42:24 AM

I thought this might generate some interesting discussion in this thread.  Seems like the Republicans have their catchphrases memorized.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2010/dec/16/lie-year-government-takeover-health-care/ (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2010/dec/16/lie-year-government-takeover-health-care/)

Title: Re: Political "Lie of the Year"
Post by: GamingWeasel on December 21, 2010, 12:02:13 PM

I noticed that article too.  It reminds me of a quote from a diabolic master of propaganda from last century: 

"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie."

The national GOP seems quite adept at this tactic.  I wonder how many people might recognize this quote without looking it up?

Title: Re: Political "Lie of the Year"
Post by: Thor on December 21, 2010, 12:41:01 PM

Hey Weasel,

     That quote.... didn't it come from Al Gore; something about Global Warming!! You people on the left, you guys are SO funny!! You absolutely slay me!!!

Title: Re: Political "Lie of the Year"
Post by: Chris Santee on December 21, 2010, 02:35:23 PM

Thor,
It actually came from a German many years ago,
Al Gore just practiced it.

Kevin & Weasel, I'm going to get back with you after Christmas.

Merry Christmas to All !!!

Title: Re: Political "Lie of the Year"
Post by: Stand Alone Defense on December 21, 2010, 02:43:02 PM

Thor it was not Al Gore, but would have been funny if it was him because it does define global warming that's for sure.

It was Joseph Goebels who said it he was a German politician Hitler’s right hand man for spreading propaganda.  

Title: Re: Political "Lie of the Year"
Post by: GamingWeasel on December 21, 2010, 03:10:12 PM

I think Thor was being rhetorical/satirical, and he didnt really think it was from Al Gore.  Easy to mis-judge peoples' statements on the net though.  No body language or tone of voice to interpret things.

Another good propaganda tactic is if an opinion cant be defended with facts or logic, then change the subject. ;)  Anybody actually have a comment about the OP?

Title: Re: Political "Lie of the Year"
Post by: Thor on December 21, 2010, 03:27:21 PM

Weasel, you are correct. It was typed with "tongue in cheek". It was actually Hitler who thought of the concept. Goebbels followed up later with his own "version". My only point on it is that the GOP doesn't own the rights to it unilaterally. It seems to be shared / common ground for both parties.

Title: Re: Political "Lie of the Year"
Post by: GamingWeasel on December 21, 2010, 03:34:26 PM

Any successful politician is going to be a liar to some extent, whether they are big lies or little white ones.  Sadly, this is how our political system works...or doesnt work, to be more exact.

Title: Re: Political "Lie of the Year"
Post by: kevin on December 23, 2010, 05:48:10 AM

All the lies in politics, especially in political races, seem to be the norm.  Is this what happens in a world of 24/7 news coverage where the sound bite reigns?  I wish more politicians could be like these two:
http://www.theday.com/article/20101028/NWS01/310289299/1017 (http://www.theday.com/article/20101028/NWS01/310289299/1017)

If only those we elect could remember that their job is to represent us, and not themselves or the lobbyists who give them money, maybe we would be better off.

I realize that these are generalizations but I think this applies to the national political scene.  Local politics are a different matter.