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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: rod anode on April 03, 2014, 04:59:28 AM

Title: vermonts population
Post by: rod anode on April 03, 2014, 04:59:28 AM
Vermont has roughly 626,000 people living here ,the state budget is well over a billion dollars ,if they gave that money to every man women and child we would have well over a million dollars each ......EVERY YEAR.
Title: Re: vermonts population
Post by: tfence on April 03, 2014, 06:49:59 AM
$1,000,000,000.00 divided by 626,000 equals  $1,597.44 if you use USA definition of a billion. If you use the European definition of a billion it would be $1,000,000,000,000.00 divided by 626,000 equals  $1,597,444.09 just saying LOL. The frost has to leave the ground. I have to much time on my hands.

 depends if you are using the American or European system. Here in the U.S. a billion is equal to 10^9 which has 9 zeroes. Under the European system, a billion is equal to 10^12 which has 12 zeroes.

 10^9, Europeans say "thousand million" or "milliard."

 Although we describe the two systems today as American or European, both systems are actually of French origin. The French physician and mathematician Nicolas Chuquet (1445-1488) apparently coined the words byllion and tryllion and used them to represent 10^12 and 10^18, respectively, thus establishing what we now think of as the "European" system. However, it was also French mathematicians of the 1600s who used billion and trillion for 10^9 and 10^12, respectively. This usage became common in France and in America, while the original Chuquet nomenclature remained in use in Britain and Germany. The French decided in 1948 to revert to the Chuquet ("European") system, leaving the U.S. as the chief standard bearer for what then became clearly an American system.

 In recent years, American usage has eroded the European system, particularly in Britain and to a lesser extent in other countries. This is primarily due to American finance, because Americans insist that $1,000,000,000 be called a billion dollars. In 1974, the government of Prime Minister Harold Wilson announced that henceforth "billion" would mean 10^9 and not 10^12 in official British reports and statistics. The Times of London style guide now defines "billion" as "one thousand million, not a million million."

 The result of all this is widespread confusion. Anyone who uses the words "billion" and "trillion" internationally should make clear which meaning of those words is intended. On the Internet, some sites outside the U.S. use the compound designation "milliard/billion" to designate the number 1,000,000,000. In science, the names of large numbers are usually avoided completely by using the appropriate SI prefixes. Thus 10^9 watts is a gigawatt and 10^12 joules is a terajoule. Such terms cannot be mistaken.
Title: Re: vermonts population
Post by: Stand Alone Defense on April 03, 2014, 07:30:50 AM
Vermont has roughly 626,000 people living here ,the state budget is well over a billion dollars ,if they gave that money to every man women and child we would have well over a million dollars each ......EVERY YEAR.

Rod, "meathead,: dead from the neck up! LMAO

Title: Re: vermonts population
Post by: rod anode on April 03, 2014, 08:40:14 AM
lol
Title: Re: vermonts population
Post by: trussell on April 03, 2014, 09:30:18 AM
Tom, thanks so much for the clarification! I didn't know there was a European and American standard of "billion" but that's very interesting!  I can't wait to share that :)
Title: Re: vermonts population
Post by: nhibbard on April 03, 2014, 10:20:26 AM
I got worried they were teaching a new math in school that I didn't know.
Title: Re: vermonts population
Post by: Mike Raburn on April 03, 2014, 12:07:45 PM
I was told there would be NO math........
Title: Re: vermonts population
Post by: Chris Santee on April 03, 2014, 02:02:47 PM
A million thanks to Tom and a billion thanks to Rod.
:-)
Title: Re: vermonts population
Post by: rod anode on April 03, 2014, 04:56:25 PM
a little late I know but .....I tried
Title: Re: vermonts population
Post by: tfence on April 03, 2014, 05:32:22 PM
Remembering this as a conversation with my father when I was a kid. My father immigrated from Ireland where his mother (my grandmother) was a professor at trinity college in Dublin Ireland around 1930. Where she taught mathematics. Imagine I was telling him he was wrong. LOL Kids never do that to their parents. Missing him now. 
Title: Re: vermonts population
Post by: rod anode on April 04, 2014, 03:42:11 PM
I know april fools