Title: Re: Clinton To Concede Delegate Race
Post by: Chris Santee on June 03, 2008, 11:15:00 AM
I don't buy it.
Title: Re: Clinton To Concede Delegate Race
Post by: MikeF9 on June 03, 2008, 11:37:43 AM
I was jumping around the dial and some Clinton people had been on CNN and they said it was false.
Title: Re: Clinton To Concede Delegate Race
Post by: MikeF9 on June 03, 2008, 11:41:25 AM
From CNN.com "Hillary Clinton is "absolutely not" prepared to admit Barack Obama has beaten her in the race for the Democratic presidential nomination, her campaign chairman told CNN today. Terry McAuliffe rejected as incorrect media reports that Clinton would concede Obama has the delegates to win."
Title: Re: Clinton To Concede Delegate Race
Post by: Chris Santee on June 03, 2008, 12:04:00 PM
AP is sticking to their story. We'll see tonight.
Title: Re: Clinton To Concede Delegate Race
Post by: Chris Santee on June 03, 2008, 12:05:58 PM
BFP says it is true, WCAX has no coverage.
Title: Re: Clinton To Concede Delegate Race
Post by: Loctavious on June 03, 2008, 12:17:19 PM
Yeah i think some news folks are not choosing their words carefully. i read this, “The AP story is incorrect. Senator Clinton will not concede the nomination this evening,” the campaign’s statement reads.
I've read that her campaign's rhetoric was softening towards conceding but never that they actually were.
Unless something real bad happens in the next 12 hours, she most likely will have to concede.
Title: Re: Clinton To Concede Delegate Race
Post by: dearon on June 05, 2008, 06:24:11 AM
Looks like our best choice for President is not going to happen. I wonder if the other party had a hand in this?
Title: Re: Clinton To Concede Delegate Race
Post by: Chris Santee on June 05, 2008, 06:34:27 AM
Republicans have worked hard against Hillary, but I think it was TV media that did her in. (If indeed she is out of this thing). Barark Obama could say there are 57 states and nobody would know. When Hillary mentioned RFK the press attacked her.
I can't believe we get out of this without a court case.
Title: Re: Clinton To Concede Delegate Race
Post by: fletchtb on June 05, 2008, 09:51:33 AM
Good Riddence! It was about time she got out of the race.
As long as she's not on the ticket in the fall, Obama probably has my vote.
Title: Re: Clinton To Concede Delegate Race
Post by: NorthFairfaxBoy on June 05, 2008, 10:47:09 AM
If it is Obama/Clinton, plan on another 4 years of Republican rule. In a landslide I might add. Obama needs to choose very wisely. As does McCain. He should try and persuede Colin Powell...
Title: Re: Clinton To Concede Delegate Race
Post by: dearon on June 05, 2008, 12:02:42 PM
Colin Powell? Have you forgotten he lied about having intel, on wepons of mass distruction? Put the politians in a basket shake it up & you've got more of the same. It's hard to tell who's telling the truth. I think this country needs a major overhaul. Any honest, hardworking, courageous person up for this task?
Title: Re: Clinton To Concede Delegate Race
Post by: Chris Santee on June 05, 2008, 12:17:47 PM
What we need to remember is the Electoral College.
Pennsylvania will be the key. They will get to decide our future.
I believe Hillary would have won it. I think McCain/Obama will battle for it.
Title: Re: Clinton To Concede Delegate Race
Post by: 7F24 on June 05, 2008, 12:23:36 PM
There hasn't been an election since 1980 without a Clinton or Bush on the ticket. It's time for a regime change. I think McCain is a Bush clone, so the choice is easy for me!
Title: Re: Clinton To Concede Delegate Race
Post by: fletchtb on June 05, 2008, 01:02:10 PM
I just find it hard to believe that Hilary could win a national election. She couldn't even win her party's nomination.
I think people either love Hilary or hate her (I happen to be a hater) and I think there are enough of each to make it a wash and to give McCain the win.
Just my 2˘.
Title: Re: Clinton To Concede Delegate Race
Post by: Chris Santee on June 05, 2008, 01:16:15 PM
Warning: Never discuss politics with friends.
Oh well.
As to McCain being another Bush.
For 4 years the press used McCain's differences with Bush to drill home the fact that Bush did not have 100% Republican support.
Bush said stay the course in Iraq. McCain argued loudly to get the surge approved. Obama said the surge would never work, would actually hurt.
May was the lowest casualty month in Iraq since DAY 1, did you hear the press cover this, no. Will the press say McCain was right ? No.
Obama says "McCain is another Bush" and people believe it ??? The press covers that. We hear it almost every day.
And by the way, when is he going to go into details on his promised "Change".
At this time, I can discuss his ideas, or lack of them, with no fear of the government. Will he "Change" that ?
I can carry a gun. Will he "Change" that ?
I have the right to vote in November. Will he "Change" that ?
If I call 911, professionals respond to my emergency. Will he "Change" that ?
We are a democracy, we are America. I don't want him to change that.
And, of course, NO, we are not perfect. But I'm grateful for all we have.
McCain/Santee 08 :-)
I should probably duck now.
Thanks for this forum Henry !!!
Title: Re: Clinton To Concede Delegate Race
Post by: 7F24 on June 05, 2008, 01:40:33 PM
Of course the "surge" will work.....temporarily. The people we are fighting have time on their side. If now is not a good time to attack, they'll wait. I just wish the people that thought of the surge would be there for the last flight out...I know I would not want to be one of the last couple of thousand troops left.
Title: Re: Clinton To Concede Delegate Race
Post by: Loctavious on June 05, 2008, 02:11:03 PM
McCain's got no easy shoe-in either. He's come across way too moderate for his own party and hasn't exactly been consistent at controlling his emotions. He's a realist to a fult in some regards, so not totally unattractive, But after 8 years of displeasure, i think plain and simple people don't only WANt a change, they NEED a change. Hence you have record numbers of republicans switching affiliations and having become registered democrats. You have independents usually on the fence until election day already picking the side for change. You've got record numbers of youth participating in the voting process. You have record amounts of Cash raised by candidates. You've got amounts of groundwork and state by state coverage not seen in decades. CHANGE has become a strong theme with many implications.
As for a Obama Clinton ticket.... if they both talked out their agendas and then worked out a compromise, i think that ticket would go all the way. Obama's staff has been superb at weaving anything that happens into an opportunity for him to benefit by it. with Clinton on the ticket, maybe it becomes a political shakedown which they work to their favor by helping to change their image abroad. I don't know the pro of holding onto the clinton era might be holding onto the memories of America flourishing. Maybe the pro is that some other world leader will remember that too and thus we start to dig ourselves out of the labeled holes we've dug for ourselves.
Title: Re: Clinton To Concede Delegate Race
Post by: Loctavious on June 05, 2008, 02:14:21 PM
7f24 - i hear what you're saying - i hope the iraqi army is up to snuff by the time we've only got a few thousand left over there. Something tells me though, that the day that we only have 10,000 over there is STILL a long way off.
Title: Re: Clinton To Concede Delegate Race
Post by: 7F24 on June 05, 2008, 02:48:32 PM
If you were Obama would you want Bill looking over your shoulder and shaking his head? I would be shocked if he picked her.