Henry Raymond

Fairfax News => Current News & Events => Topic started by: MikeF9 on January 13, 2009, 11:30:40 AM

Title: Monsters in and around Fairfax??
Post by: MikeF9 on January 13, 2009, 11:30:40 AM: As President of the Fairfax Historical Society, I was one of many to receive this e-mail from Joe Citro, who brings to light spooky tales about Vermont and New England.

Happy New Year!
I got you email address from the Vermont Historical Society website.
I'm hoping you can help me with some research I'm doing for a new book.
I'm trying to collect tales about Vermont Monsters. I'm looking for critters more obscure than Champ, Memphre, or Bigfoot.
These might be the sorts of tales you heard when you were a kid sitting around the campfire. For example, I have the story of a 300-pound leech supposedly living in a pond in Sharon. And a "swamp monster" said to hang out in St. George. And of course there's Old Slipperyskin up in the Northeast Kingdom, who may have been a bear. . . but maybe not!
I'm not asking you to take the time write the story, just alert me to what might be hiding in your local woods, sky, and lakes.
Or possibly suggest folklorist or yarn spinner I might talk to.
Questions? Comments? Information? Please drop me an email or give me a call.
Thank you in advance for helping me to keep Vermont's legendary monsters alive.
With all best wishes,
--Joe Citro
PS--And please excuse this mass mailing. To be comprehensive I'm trying to contact all our local historical societies.

--
Joseph A. Citro
217 St. Paul St.
Burlington VT 05401
802-863-8751

http://www.josephacitro.com
"Literary is a work very difficult to do." --Julia A. Moore

I can't think of any "monsters" in the area. Nothing in the Lamoille River, or Mill Brook, or Silver Lake that I have heard of.
Nothing crawling around in the woods.
Any help?
Title: Re: Monsters in and around Fairfax??
Post by: Henry on January 13, 2009, 12:24:07 PM: Not a story about Monsters, but one of a man convicted for murder that happened on Fairfield Pond also known as Dream Lake because of the following story:

It is the story of Dream Lake.

In the early 1840’s a British Army deserter named Eugene Clifford settled in the area of Fairfield Pond, Vermont. He wasn’t very well liked by the populace. One woman, however, apparently admired him enough to marry him and produce a child. She had been a widow with an inheritance of 50 acres from her first marriage. As time went on, Eugene Clifford developed an interest for another woman, a widow with acreage of land on the other side of the lake. On Sunday, October 16, 1842 he came home from work and told his wife he’d like to take her and their child out for a boat ride. She instantly wrapped the baby in a scarf and put on herself a prize Irish scarf she had, and followed her husband to the boat. Several hours after leaving, the boat returned with only Eugene left.

He was sagged and weeping bitterly.

When the neighbors questioned him, he said that his wife had moved to wrap her own shawl around the baby but the boat rocked violently with her movements and threw both woman and child into the freezing lake. They drown. There was still daylight, so the neighbors searched for the bodies until dark. The next day they took up the search once more and found what they sought. The two bodies were not far from shore and were several feet apart: dead.

The double funeral was being planned when a neighbor recalled the prized shawls. However, upon questioning as to the whereabouts, Eugene Clifford replied, “How should I know?” A search was started, but as nothing turned up, suspicion began to fall on the part of the husband. The neighbors started to suspect murder. Then a group of men recalled that a few weeks previously, Eugene had been sitting with them in the store and asked, “If my wife and child should die, would I inherit that 50-acre farm of hers free and clear?” As soon as that was recovered, Eugene was arrested and held for murder. However, as the evidence was circumstantial, he was only being held not cited.

A new piece of evidence showed up the night of the arrest, from the unlikeliest source.

Mrs. Abigail Marvin was the closest friend of Mrs. Clifford, the deceased woman. She had a dream. In the dream she followed roads and crossed fences and meadows, and found a particular place near Fairfield Pond where a hollowed out tree stood. In the tree was a flat rock, and under the rock were the prize shawls. Mrs. Marvin woke up and told her husband, who laughed and said she was overwrought.

Abigail, certain it was no ordinary dream, got a neighbor to accompany her. They followed the dream path until they found the hollow tree. Inside was a flat stone. Underneath? The prized shawls! Her dream had been correct. She brought the evidence to court, and Clifford was convicted of double homicide.

Now, Fairfield Pond is also called Dream Lake.

--- Okay, so that’s the historical story. The account I had from Randy Jettie, of course, had taken on a couple of new twists, such as the child being a boy, the shawls having blood on them, and the spirit of the woman walking the shores at night. However, think of my surprise when I found a real account of this murder and weird conviction in the historical books of the area.

Why do I say the conviction was weird? Think about it a bit. In today’s court, they would use forensics to make certain that this man had really killed the two victims. They would use DNA, ‘reenact’ the deaths, and get a confession. However, according to the records, the evidence of motive was the only thing they had until one woman had a dream. Then, due to a dream, which lead to the shawls, the man was condemned as a murderer. In today’s court, the suspicion would suddenly jump to include the friend, since she’d found the scarves based on a ‘dream’. What court today would immediately find a man guilty of murder with only the three following pieces of evidence?

1) He said he didn’t know where the shawls were.

2) He had been heard asking about inheritance a few weeks earlier.

3) The deceased’s best friend dreamed about the location of the missing shawls and found them.

Wouldn’t the modern courts try to figure out FIRST if the woman had helped murder the pair and planted the evidence to condemn her partner? If someone else had found the shawls and perhaps put them in the tree as a sort of burial? If the man had been so grief stricken that he had ‘buried’ the only thing he’d found of the pair before going back to the proper shore? After all, he had been out several hours and the bodies were found close to shore. He’d been ‘grief-stricken’ and grief can cause memory blackouts. He may have only been able to recover the shawls from the water and ‘buried’ them, but forgotten that he’d done so.

Naturally, my ‘questions’ are not all that can be asked, and may not lead to any alternate decision by the courts on his conviction, but they would be asked today. Back then? Apparently, one could be convicted of murder on the evidence of a dream.
Title: Re: Monsters in and around Fairfax??
Post by: logical on January 13, 2009, 01:30:14 PM: I remember hearing stories about the ghost of a woman roaming the shores of Fairfield Pond. I don't remember the exact story behind it but just the fact that many claim to have seen her.
Title: Re: Monsters in and around Fairfax??
Post by: mirjo on January 13, 2009, 08:56:18 PM: So what you're saying is that people in the 19th century were just as deranged as they are now?!

Interesting and creepy story. I enjoyed your analysis of it. I have never heard of this particular ghost before. I wonder if her retribution was leading the friend to the shawls via the dream? At least justice was served...more than what can be said for some crimes now days it seems.
Title: Re: Monsters in and around Fairfax??
Post by: Henry on January 13, 2009, 10:42:09 PM: I spent my first 19 years growing up in Fairfield at a time when there was no television, part of the time no electricity and the only past time was visiting and listening to reminiscing by my father and grandmother about Fairfield and its people. My father's mother could neither read nor write, but she had a fantastic memory and I do have to say, there was many a story I heard more than once, by both my Dad & my grandmother.

Fairfield put out an interesting book that my sister gave me one birthday. It is called "Fairfield Vermont Reminiscences", and contains stories from the Old Timers. Very interesting, especially to somebody like me who can place where a lot of the people involved lived.

The Analysis Above of the story was not actually mine, but came from the Internet where I found it easier to copy & paste the story than to scan it from my "Fairfield Vermont Reminiscences" book.

To read a little more on it, click on the link below:

http://www.ghosts.org/stories/test/viewstory.php?sid=1503 (http://www.ghosts.org/stories/test/viewstory.php?sid=1503)